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• #BackChannel: Starbucks And Implicit Bias, The Reign of Kendrick And Beyoncé, Tracy Morgan’s Return
  Anita Rao and Frank Stasio, April 25, 2018 The arrest of two 23-year-old black men at a Philadelphia Starbucks earlier this month has sparked a national conversation about implicit bias. Rashon Nelson and Donte Robinson were waiting for a business meeting when the employees asked them to leave. Soon after, police entered the store, handcuffed them and took them to jail.The company’s CEO has since apologized and announced all U.S. Starbucks stores will close for one day in May to train employees on unconscious bias. Popular culture experts Natalie Bullock Brown and Mark Anthony Neal talk about the incident with host Frank Stasio in this episode of #BackChannel, The State of Things’ recurring series connecting culture and context.
• 50th Anniversary Of The North Carolina Fund (30 min)
  Nicole Campbell and Frank Stasio. In 1963, almost a quarter of North Carolinians were living in poverty. An expert panel talks about the history of the North Carolina Fund. Howard Fuller, professor of education at Marquette University, and Rubye Gattis are former organizers with the North Carolina Fund; Bob Korstad is a professor of history and public policy at Duke University.
• A New One-Man Show Resurrects Stokely Carmichael (17 min)
  By Anita Rao & Frank Stasio, The State of Things, Feb 16, 2017 In the early 1960s, Stokely Carmichael was a relatively-unknown young activist working primarily with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee in Alabama and Mississippi. But he rose to prominence in the summer of 1966 when he introduced the term “black power” into the national dialogue. A new one-man show examines this pivotal moment in civil rights history through the eyes of Stokely Carmichael himself. Host Frank Stasio talks with writer and performer Meshaun Labrone about his show “POWER!” Stokely Carmichael. Labrone performs this Friday, Feb.17 at the Sonja Haynes Stone Center on the UNC-Chapel Hill campus.
• A Quiet Force For Change: Meet Karla FC Holloway (47 min.)
  Laura Pellicer & Frank Stasio. WUNC The State of Things, Oct. 21, 2019.
  Karla FC Holloway was raised in Buffalo, New York in the midst of the battle over school desegregation. Her parents were both school administrators, and although she was not aware at the time of just how involved they were in that fight, she keenly observed their commitment to racial equality.
  https://www.karlaholloway.com/
• Armondo Collins Will Tell His Own Story, Thank You Very Much
  Kaia Findlay & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, June 29, 2020
  Host Frank Stasio talks with Armondo Collins about his childhood in Minnesota, his education in North Carolina and his work to shape new narratives about Black communities and experiences.
• A Scientist Who Found Her Faith In Physics: Meet Katie Mack, AKA AstroKatie (48 min)
  Frank Stasio interviews astrophysicist Katy Mack, The State of Things, July 9, 2018, rebroadcast July 8, 2019
  Mack met Stephen Hawking, who inspired her to become a cosmologist. She also followed in the footsteps of her own grandfather, who had worked on the Apollo 11 mission and attended Caltech. Mack also sought answers to life’s biggest questions through religious practice. She spent time in theology school and always hoped to find faith but eventually realized that route was not quite the one for her. Mack continued on with her study of science, and now is a professor in the physics department at North Carolina State University, where she focuses on understanding the universe from beginning to end.
• Blaming Frats For Covid-19 On Campus. Unfair? (35 min)
  Grant Holub-Moorman & Frank Stasio, The State of Things, 9/1/2020
  Host Frank Stasio talks with Holden Thorp about the partying paradox and asks Praveena Somasundaram, assistant online editor of The Daily Tar Heel, how different North Carolina universities have exercised authority over unruly Greek chapters during the pandemic. Fraternities often successfully resist punitive measures by wielding their economic and political influence, explains journalist John Hechinger.
• Busting The Myth Of The American Dream: Meet William Darity (48 min)
  Anita Rao & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, April 10, 2017 Why are some people rich and others poor? Answering this elusive question has been the lifelong work of economist William (Sandy) Darity.
• Equity In Education (37 min)
  WUNC The State of Things, Frank Stasio and Angie Perrin, Jan 16, 2018 A conversation about education equity in North Carolina with nonprofit news organization EdNC reporter Liz Bell, North Carolina’s 2014 teacher of the year James Ford, educator and creator of Profound Gentlemen Jason Terrell, and Charlotte Assistant Public Defender Toussaint Romain. EdNC explores Education Equity in their new documentary series “Equity Meets Education,” a story told through the eyes of four African-American leaders. See also "New Study Shows Big Gap ..."
• Frank Stasio's Fondest Shows: 19 Years Wrongfully Imprisoned: Meet Darryl Hunt
  Darryl Hunt served 19 years in prison for a rape and murder he did not commit. The crime committed against him by the state — his wrongful conviction and wrongful imprisonment — stands as one of the most egregious examples of the injustice built into our penal system. His prison guards plotted to murder him, but he was cleared of all charges in 2014. The interview with Darryl Hunt and his attorney Mark Rabil was recorded in July 2007.
• Head Trauma: The Worst Kept Secret On The Gridiron (50 min)
  Host Frank Stasio talks with Dr. Lee Goldstein, NFL Hall of Famer and Super Bowl champion Harry Carson, sports ethic experts John and Marcia Mount Shoop, and Duke professor Lori Leachman, about head trauma and CTE.
• How Dean Smith's Push For Civil Rights Transformed Chapel Hill
  Charlie Shelton and Frank Stasio, Nov. 30, 2016 In the new book, "Game Changers: Dean Smith, Charlie Scott and The Era That Transformed A Southern College Town" (UNC Press/2016), author Art Chanksy details Smith and Scott's origins and relationship at UNC-CH. Host Frank Stasio talks with Chansky about the racial climate of Chapel Hill during the civil rights movement and why Smith put his job on the line in recruiting Scott.
• How One Chief Justice Used The Church To Dispossess Natives From Their Land
  WUNC, The State of Things, Dana Terry and Frank Stasio, 12/4/2018 Immigration attorney George Pappas traces the impact of religious doctrine on land rights in his new book “The Literary and Legal Genealogy of Native American Dispossession: The Marshall Trilogy Cases” (Routledge/2017). Pappas begins his analysis in the 1400s when the pope gave the kings of Spain and Portugal the right to invade, capture and subdue any pagans who were considered enemies of Christ. Early settlers were allowed to enslave them and take dominion over their land. This religious directive became the Doctrine of Discovery accepted as law by the Europeans that colonized America. This doctrine was later referred to in multiple legal rulings proceeded over by Supreme Court Chief Justice John James Marshall to dispossess Native Americans from their land. Pappas talks to Frank Stasio about the three central rulings that govern Native American land rights and why he believes they are so problematic. They are also joined by Janelle Adair. She's a Cherokee storyteller and a member of the United Keetoowah Band Cherokee Indians of Oklahoma. She shares stories of how being forced from their land resulted in the massive loss of language, culture, and cultural connection.
• In Black Communities’ Fight Against COVID-19, The Real ‘Pre-Existing Condition’ Is Poverty (30 min)
  Stacia Brown & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, April 22, 2020
  Host Frank Stasio talks about the race disparity during the COVID-19 pandemic with Lori Carter-Edwards, an associate professor at the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health, and William “Sandy” Darity, director of the Samuel DuBois Cook Center on Social Equity at Duke University.
• Is America Getting Angrier? How Anger Affects Our Politics, Psyche And Culture (31 min)
  Dana Terry and Frank Stasio, The State of Things, July 5, 2019
  Host Frank Stasio examines the topic of 'Anger' with director of the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security at Duke University, David Schanzer, clinical psychologist Thomas Harbin, and Soraya Chemaly, author of 'Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women's Anger.'
• Jane Kim. Political Leadership Under 40 (13 min)
  Meghan Modafferi and Frank Stasio. Jane Kim was only 33 years old when she became the nation’s first Korean-American district supervisor, representing San Francisco’s 6th District on the Board of Supervisors. Since her election in 2010, she has focused her work on homelessness, affordable housing and pedestrian safety.
• Jonathan Holloway. Do Our Memories Define Us? (14 min.)
  Anita Rao and Frank Stasio. The book, "Jim Crow Wisdom," (UNC Press/2013) explores stories black Americans tell about their past and the way those stories inform modern black identity.
• Lumbee Scholar Traces Tribe’s Long Fight For Self-Determination (20 min)
  Laura Pellicer & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, September 7, 2018 Host Frank Stasio speaks with Malinda Maynor Lowery, history professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and director of the Center for the Study of the American South, about her new book, 'The Lumbee Indians: An American Struggle.'
• Lynchings Not A Historical Artifact, Lennon Lacy Death Explored In New Film (17 min)
  The State of Things, Dana Terry & Frank Stasio, March 27, 2019
  Filmmaker Jacqueline Olive joins host Frank Stasio to talk about her documentary, 'Always in Season.'
• Meet Iconic Designer Alexander Julian (47 min)
  Laura Pellicer and Frank Stasio, The State of Things, January 29, 2018. Host Frank Stasio interviews Chapel Hill native Alexander Julian. Alexander Julian is credited with the iconic revamp of Tar Heel sports uniforms. But his journey to creating the legendary Carolina blue argyle was a long time in the making. Julian drew up his first designs when he was a child, and he started working the sales floor at his father Maurice Julian’s haberdashery on Franklin Street when he was in his teens.
• Meet Jane Smith Patterson
  Anita Rao and Frank Stasio. For more than 40 years, Jane Smith Patterson has been paving the way for women in North Carolina politics and digital technology.
• Meet Nancy Petty
  Laura Lee and Frank Stasio, Sep 12, 2016 (rebroadcast 12/12/2016) Host Frank Stasio speaks with Nancy Petty, an activist pastor at Raleigh’s progressive Pullen Baptist Church who is openly gay and has championed marriage equality and LGBT rights. She has led Moral Monday protests and chairs the Reverend William Barber’s Repairers of the Breach board. Most recently her work has focused on facilitating interfaith dialogue with Raleigh’s Muslim community and fighting Islamaphobia and racism.
• Meet The 'Golden Girls’ Judge (48 min)
  Dana Terry & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, December 17, 2018 Teresa Raquel Robinson Freeman, Shamieka Rhinehart, Camille Banks-Prince, and Keisha Wright Hill, all of whom enrolled in law school at North Carolina Central University, became life-long friends and judges. They join Frank Stasio for a special joint interview to share the many moments of their personal and legal careers.
• Meet Virologist Richard Watkins: A Scientist Willing To Say: I Don’t Know
  Amanda Magnus & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, May 11, 2020
  Microbiologist-immunologist Richard Watkins joins host Frank Stasio to talk about his career path, his run for U.S. Congress in 2018 and the lessons we can learn from the coronavirus pandemic.
• Natural Selection Favors The Friendly, According To Duke Scientists (20 min)
  WUNC The State of Things, Josie Taris & Anita Rao, June 16, 2020
  Host Anita Rao talks with scientists Brian Hare and Vanessa Woods about their new book Survival of the Friendliest: Understanding our Origins and Rediscovering Our Common Humanity. Brian Hare is a professor in the department of evolutionary anthropology at Duke University, where he founded the Duke Canine Cognition Center; Vanessa Woods is the director of the Duke Puppy Kindergarten, as well as a journalist and the author of “Bonobo Handshake: A Memoir of Love and Adventure in the Congo” (Gotham/2010). They co-authored “Survival of the Friendliest: Understanding Our Origins and Rediscovering Our Common Humanity” (Random House/2020) to explain how a predisposition for friendliness led species like bonobos, domesticated dogs and even Homo sapiens to flourish.
• New Study Shows Big Gap In Education Spending Among North Carolina Counties (11 min)
  WUNC The State of Things, Amanda Magnius and Frank Stasio, Jan 16, 2018 A new study from the Public School Forum of North Carolina confirms a large and growing gap in public school funding between the wealthiest and the poorest counties. Host Frank Stasio talks with Lindsay Wagner, co-author of the report and senior researcher at the Public School Forum. They discuss what solutions could help to close the public school spending gap. See also Equity in Education.
• PLASTICON: The Trouble With Plastic
  SOT Team & Frank Stasio, WUNC Radio, April 17, 2018. With movements like the former plastic bag ban on the Outer Banks, Durham’s Skip The Straw campaign and the upcoming PLASTICON event at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, communities around the state are doing their part to make residents aware of the 8.5 million metric tons of plastic added to the oceans each year. Artist and Mellon DisTIL fellow Robin Frohardt takes a different approach to promoting awareness. She joins host Frank Stasio to share her process creating art from plastic bags. She hopes the absurdity of her work will make people think twice about that next cup of Starbucks. Frohardt is joined by Courtney Woods, professor in the department of environmental sciences and engineering at the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health, who researches where many plastics end up: rural minority communities.
• Rediscovering The Music Of African American Composer Florence Price
  WUNC The State of Things, Amanda Magnus and Frank Stasio, October 30, 2019
  Florence Price was the first African American woman to have her symphony performed by a major orchestra. Host Frank Stasio talks to William Henry Curry about the music and life of Florence Price. Curry is the music director of the Durham Symphony Orchestra, which will perform work by Florence Price, Peggy Stuart Coolidge and more in their program celebrating the centennial of American women’s suffrage on Sunday, Nov. 3 at 4 p.m. at the Carolina Theatre in Durham.
• Reinterpreting North Carolina’s History
  11/29/2017, WUNC The State of Things. Charlie Shelton and Frank Stasio. The new book “New Voyages to Carolina: Reinterpreting North Carolina History” (UNC Press/ 2017) aims to highlight narratives that have been absent from the work of previous historians. Host Frank Stasio talks with the co-editor of the book 'New Voyages to Carolina: Reinterpreting North Carolina’s History' Jeffrey Crow, history professor and contributor to the book Karin Zipf, and the director of the Indian Education Resource Center for Robeson County Public Schools Connie Locklear.
• Rep. G.K. Butterfield Of North Carolina: Criminal Justice Reform Crucial To Fix Racial Disparity (11 min)
  WUNC The State of Things
  Rep. G.K. Butterfield Of North Carolina: Criminal Justice Reform Crucial To Fix Racial Disparity
  By Anita Rao & Frank Stasio & Jess Clark, May 7, 2015
• Robert R. Korstad and James Leloudis. To Right These Wrongs
  The North Carolina Fund and the Battle to End Poverty and Inequality in 1960s America. UNC Press (with companion DVD). Chapter 4: https://lcrm.lib.unc.edu/voice/works/w/to-right-these-wrongs/s/6
  
• State of Things - "Bad Girls," Eugenics And Samarcand Manor
  WUNC The State of Things, Anita Rao and Frank Stasio, July 22, 2016 More than 2,000 women and girls were forcibly sterilized in the first two decades of North Carolina's state eugenics program from 1929-1950. While many governmental institutions and scientists propelled the movement forward, the new book "Bad Girls at Samarcand: Sexuality and Sterilization in a Southern Juvenile Reformatory" (LSUP/2016) traces the story of one reformatory's unexpected role in the process.
• NC Teen Pregnancies At Decades Low, Thanks In Part To Contraception
  Host Frank Stasio talks about the scientific data and psychological underpinnings of adolescent sexual behavior with Carolyn Halpern, professor and chair of the department of maternal and child health in the Gillings School of Global Public Health at UNC Chapel Hill. He is also joined by Elizabeth Finley, director of strategic communications at SHIFT NC (Sexual Health Initiatives for Teens), to discuss how nonprofits and state programs provide sexual education and resources in the state. WUNC The State of Things, 10/10/2017
• The History of Hayti, The Anchor Of Durham’s African-American Neighborhood
  The State of Things, Amanda Magnus & Frank Stasio, March 20, 2019
  Host Frank Stasio talks about the history and significance of the Durham Hayti community with the executive director of the Hayti Heritage Center Angela Lee, Durham-based artist and a cultural historian Justin Robinson, and Durham-based dance artist and walking tour operator Aya Shabu.
• The Journalist Who Revealed The Rage Behind American Politics (19 min)
  WUNC The State of Things, 10/5/2017 - Frank Stasio has a conversation with journalist Jared Yates Sexton about his experience inside the fray of the 2016 election which he writes about in his book 'The People Are Going to Rise Like The Waters Upon Your Shore: A Story of American Rage'.
• The Keepers of Black Wall Street: The Life and Legacy Of Nathan Garrett (48 min)
  Dana Terry & Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, June 10, 2019.
  While much of the country was suffering during the Great Depression, Nathan Garrett’s family found a safe haven in Durham, North Carolina. At the time the city was fertile ground for the African American entrepreneur, and the Garrett family ran the local pharmacy. Nathan learned the ropes of running a business, and he fondly remembers a community that was proud and self-sustaining. He eventually left Durham to attend Yale University, where he was part of the largest influx of African American students the university had known: a class of four.
  
  See also "The Past, Present And Future Of Durham’s Black Wall Street" in this folder.
  
• The Past, Present And Future Of Durham’s Black Wall Street (48 min)
  Amanda Magnus, Dana Terry & Frank Stasio. WUNC The State of Things, June 7, 2019
  As Durham celebrates its sesquicentennial, host Frank Stasio invites a panel of community leaders, business owners and activists to look back at the history of the Bull City and trace how its economy, politics and culture have shifted in the past 150 years. They home in on Black Wall Street: a four-block district on Parrish Street that was once a mecca for black-owned businesses. Host Frank Stasio. Guests:
  - Andrea Harris, co-founder and former president of the North Carolina Institute of Minority Economic Development; senior fellow with the nonprofit Center for Community Self-Help.
  - Kimberly Moore, former marketing expert at North Carolina Mutual Life Insurance Company; head of marketing at Saint Augustine's University, she also teaches at North Carolina Central University and at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
  - Henry McKoy, former assistant secretary of commerce for North Carolina; current director of entrepreneurship at North Carolina Central University's School of Business.
  - Denise Hester, co-founder of M&M Real Estate Development and Consulting; she and her husband own two shopping centers on Fayetteville Street.
  - Zuri Reynolds-Hester, owner of Nzinga’s Breakfast Cafe on Fayetteville Street
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• The Patients, Prescribers, And Politics Behind NC's Opioid Crisis (49 min)
  Jennifer Brookland & Adam Hochberg, WUNC The State of Things, February 1, 2018 With the drug abuse problem often pinned to overprescribing at the hands of doctors, the medical community is also engaged in some soul-searching about how it responds to pain patients. Hochberg talks with Don Teater, a family medicine doctor who practices in Waynesville, NC, about how he used to treat pain patients and the evangelism with which he now approaches alternative therapies. He also talks to Nabarun Dasgupta, senior research scientist with the University of North Carolina Injury Prevention Center and the Eshelman School of Pharmacy, about the forces that shaped the current situation and the underlying causes that require attention to turn the tide on opiate abuse. Finally, Hochberg talks with WUNC data reporter Jason Debruyn and WUNC Capitol Bureau Chief Jeff Tiberii about the politics and policies at play in North Carolina and their exclusive interview with Gov. Roy Cooper about his efforts to enact change. WUNC reporters have launched a series called "Hitting Home: The Opioid Crisis in North Carolina."
• The Rebirth Of Frederick Douglass
  SOT Team & Frank Stasio, WUNC Radio, 4/17/2018 A conversation with Ken Morris, a descendant of Frederick Douglass and co-founder of the nonprofit Frederick Douglass Family Initiatives and Jame E. Williams Jr., attorney and former president of the Chapel Hill-Carrboro NAACP about a celebration to honor Frederick Douglass’ 200th birthday.
• The State of Things - "The Making Of A Racist" (17 min)
  Host Frank Stasio talks with Professor Charles Dew, American History professor at Williams College, about his new memoir, "The Making of a Racist: A Southerner Reflects on Family, History and the Slave Trade" (University of Virginia Press, 2016). Dew recommends two books to his students before class begins: "Coming of Age in Mississippi" by Anne Moody and "Separate Pasts: Growing Up White in the Segregated South" by Melton A. McLaurin.
• The State of Things - #BackChannel: Politics On The Olympic Podium
  Charlie Shelton and Frank Stasio, 8/18/2016 Host Frank Stasio talks with popular culture experts Natalie Bullock Brown, professor of film and broadcast media at St. Augustine's University, and Mark Anthony Neal, professor of African & African American studies at Duke University, about the legacy of athletes and politics at the Olympics.​
• The State of Things - How Can Transgender Southerners Get Better Healthcare? (32 min)
  Amanda Magnus and Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, 1/9/2019
  More than 500,000 transgender people live in the South, according to the Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law. National data show that nearly a quarter of trans people do not get any kind of healthcare because of a fear of discrimination. A new report from the Campaign for Southern Equality and Western NC Community Health Services examines the specific barriers faced by transgender people who live in the South.
• The State of Things - Meet Irwin Holmes: From Tennis With Arthur Ashe To Putting Men In Space (48 min)
  WUNC The State of Things. Dana Terry and Frank Stasio, October 28, 2019.
  Irwin Holmes became the No. 2 African American high school player in the country during a time when most blacks were not allowed on the tennis court. He was one of the first African Americans accepted to North Carolina State University and the first to graduate. He is credited with helping integrate ACC sports as co-captain of NC State’s tennis team. After graduating in engineering from NC State, he helped develop technologies including the one that put a man in space and laid the groundwork for the Internet. In 2018, NC State renamed a building after Holmes in honor of his accomplishments at the university and in his career. Host Frank Stasio talks with Irwin Holmes about his life and legacy.
• The State of Things - The Doctor Who Loves Patient-Care: Meet Charlie van der Horst
  Amanda Magnus and Frank Stasio, WUNC The State of Things, February 11, 2019.
  Host Frank Stasio talks with Dr. Charles van der Horst, an emeritus professor in medicine and infectious diseases at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Medicine, about his upbringing, his activism, and his work as a physician. Throughout his career, Dr. Charles van der Horst has always prioritized close relationships with his patients. He was on the front lines of the AIDS epidemic in the state and opened up an AIDS ward at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in the 1980s.
• The Untold Story Of Camp Lejeune
  By Anita Rao & Frank Stasio, The State of Things, Wed May 28, 2014
  
  For more than three decades, hundreds of thousands of people were likely exposed to contaminated water at Camp Lejeune, a Marine base in Jacksonville, North Carolina.
  
  Fuel-farm leaks and the improper disposal of toxic substances from nearby buildings led to a level of chemicals often described as a "toxic stew." These contaminants have been linked to a series of birth defects and cancers affecting former Lejeune residents. Journalist Mike Magner explores the untold side of this disaster in his new book: the personal stories of affected veterans and their families and the response by the Marine Corps.
  
• The Vegan Studies Project (18 min)
  Charlie Shelton and Frank Stasio, Nov 5, 2015 For author Laura Wright, being a vegan is a choice in diet and identity. It shapes what she eats and wears, as well as how she is perceived in a culinary culture that revolves around meat. Her new book "The Vegan Studies: Food, Animals and Gender in the Age of Terror" (University of Georgia Press/2015) unpacks the vegan identity through the lens of health, politics and pop culture. Host Frank Stasio talks with Wright about the book and how veganism has been molded by American culture.j
• Tracking How History Made Room For Trumpism (30 min)
  October 2, 2018 Host Frank Stasio speaks with Scholar Lawrence Grossberg, a professor of communications and cultural studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, about his take on the state of American politics and why he says the U.S. may be heading toward a Robocop-style society. Grossberg has spent decades documenting the rise of the political right. In his latest book, he places the rise of President Trump within the historical timeline of American conservatism. “Under The Cover Of Chaos: Trump and the Battle for the American Right” (Pluto Press/ 2018). The book digs into how the turmoil of the Trump presidency has spurred an “explosion of vital and diverse forms of organizing” on the left, but also how that organizing has bypassed real conversations that acknowledge the core of political disagreements and develop long-term strategy.
• What Can We Learn From 20th-Century Leaders?
  Amanda Magnus and Frank Stasio, April 24, 2018 Host Frank Stasio talks to Bruce Jentleson, professor in the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke University, about his book “The Peacemakers: Leadership Lessons From Twentieth-Century Statesmanship” and how lessons from the last century can be applied to future foreign conflicts. The book profiles thirteen 21st century leaders behind these peacemaking efforts from the previous 100 years, including negotiators, activists, and trailblazers.
• What Might 40 Acres And A Mule Look Like In 2020 Asheville? (11:30)
  WUNC The State of Things, July 16, 2020. Stacia Brown & Anita Rao
  Host Anita Rao talks to Robert Thomas, Asheville's Racial Justice Coalition Community Liaison, about the city's decision to provide reparations to its Black residents.
• Whose Story Gets Told In The Abortion Debates? (45 min)
  Kaia Findlay & Anita Rao, WUNC The State of Things, Oct. 8, 2020
  Host Anita Rao talks with Gretchen Sisson, a research sociologist at Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health, about how television and real life diverge when it comes to abortion — and how that may influence our understanding of the issue. Dr. Rathika Nimalendran also joins the conversation to break down North Carolina’s abortion laws and misconceptions. And Rao talks with Margaret and Ruth, two women who terminated wanted pregnancies in their second trimesters for medical reasons.